Comments for testjutsu http://testjutsu.com Thu, 17 May 2012 17:53:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on New to software testing? Read this by Ben Kelly http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-1070 Ben Kelly Thu, 17 May 2012 17:53:25 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-1070 Hi Chris, Welcome :) I can certainly understand the 'do as everyone else does' mentality, especially for a rank beginner with little guidance, or worse - some amount of misguidance. I've spent time lost in that wilderness. The curious generally don't stay there for very long. You sound like you've made a good start. I wish you all the best with it. Hi Chris,
Welcome :)

I can certainly understand the ‘do as everyone else does’ mentality, especially for a rank beginner with little guidance, or worse – some amount of misguidance. I’ve spent time lost in that wilderness. The curious generally don’t stay there for very long.

You sound like you’ve made a good start. I wish you all the best with it.

]]> Comment on New to software testing? Read this by Ben Kelly http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-1069 Ben Kelly Thu, 17 May 2012 17:45:27 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-1069 Hi Isaac, I think that people that work with skilled testers come to understand their value. I've noticed what I think is a trend of programmers talking about how they recognize that testing is a difficult thing to do well and that having skilled people in a dedicated tester role helps them. I hope it's a trend that continues. I'd like to see monkey testers (or zombie testers, as I like to call them) fall by the wayside sooner rather than later, but the sad truth is that probably won't happen until the people hiring them and the people working with them demand a higher standard. Right now it seems that many still think that zombie testing is the norm. Hi Isaac,
I think that people that work with skilled testers come to understand their value. I’ve noticed what I think is a trend of programmers talking about how they recognize that testing is a difficult thing to do well and that having skilled people in a dedicated tester role helps them. I hope it’s a trend that continues.
I’d like to see monkey testers (or zombie testers, as I like to call them) fall by the wayside sooner rather than later, but the sad truth is that probably won’t happen until the people hiring them and the people working with them demand a higher standard. Right now it seems that many still think that zombie testing is the norm.

]]> Comment on New to software testing? Read this by isaac L http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-1068 isaac L Wed, 09 May 2012 14:05:31 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-1068 I've been to a few conferences lately and see your use of 'critical thinking' and many other nuances above which suggests that testing requires great skill. Its true, if you want to do a good job. Seems the testing community cries out for respect and to maintain its existence. Especially with agile testing, where integrating closely with the dev team requires more technical skills and 'sapience' as some might call it. Anyways, the profession is changing, and monkey testers will soon go by the wayside. I’ve been to a few conferences lately and see your use of ‘critical thinking’ and many other nuances above which suggests that testing requires great skill. Its true, if you want to do a good job. Seems the testing community cries out for respect and to maintain its existence. Especially with agile testing, where integrating closely with the dev team requires more technical skills and ‘sapience’ as some might call it. Anyways, the profession is changing, and monkey testers will soon go by the wayside.

]]> Comment on New to software testing? Read this by Chris http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-1067 Chris Fri, 04 May 2012 21:20:49 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-1067 Great read Ben, very inspiring. I've just started my career in software testing.. and I'm always looking to explore new ideas and acquire more knowledge. It helps me criticize my way of testing too. At first I think it's natural to be too attached to the test scripts.. and that's more like checking than testing. I am lucky cause I have the go ahead to start automating the routine checks soon.. thus I'll have more time for exploratory testing. As you rightly said, to be a competent tester developing critical thinking is surely a must. This is what I love about testing, I see it as very philosophical. I always try to browse around for good articles and I'm thankful I encountered this blog. P.S. great list of testing tools too ;) Great read Ben, very inspiring. I’ve just started my career in software testing.. and I’m always looking to explore new ideas and acquire more knowledge. It helps me criticize my way of testing too.

At first I think it’s natural to be too attached to the test scripts.. and that’s more like checking than testing. I am lucky cause I have the go ahead to start automating the routine checks soon.. thus I’ll have more time for exploratory testing.

As you rightly said, to be a competent tester developing critical thinking is surely a must. This is what I love about testing, I see it as very philosophical.

I always try to browse around for good articles and I’m thankful I encountered this blog. P.S. great list of testing tools too ;)

]]> Comment on New to software testing? Read this by Narasimha Dulam http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-1061 Narasimha Dulam Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:57:39 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-1061 This is really great. I my team testing is all about writing Test cases and executing them(Pass\Fail). But i seriously suggest them to do beyond that. Testing is all about exploring and questioning. I liked your approach of questioning. Testing is all about Questioning the Quality of the product. This is really great. I my team testing is all about writing Test cases and executing them(Pass\Fail). But i seriously suggest them to do beyond that. Testing is all about exploring and questioning.

I liked your approach of questioning.
Testing is all about Questioning the Quality of the product.

]]> Comment on Subversion gotchas by Writing a screenplay with SVN or Mercurial versioning ● Screenwriting goes Zen http://testjutsu.com/2008/02/subversion-gotchas/#comment-1059 Writing a screenplay with SVN or Mercurial versioning ● Screenwriting goes Zen Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:12:04 +0000 http://www.testjutsu.com/?p=33#comment-1059 [...] the author and the repository.” Although many (any?) version control systems have their problems, we will jump in bravely and try to apply these tools to fictional writing in general and [...] [...] the author and the repository.” Although many (any?) version control systems have their problems, we will jump in bravely and try to apply these tools to fictional writing in general and [...]

]]> Comment on New to software testing? Read this by Duncan nisbet http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-942 Duncan nisbet Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:09:07 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-942 Cheers Ben. Yep, that's the plan - trying not preach tho! Cheers Ben.

Yep, that’s the plan – trying not preach tho!

]]> Comment on New to software testing? Read this by Ben Kelly http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-933 Ben Kelly Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:44:30 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-933 Thanks for stopping by, Duncan. It can be tough to find your way out of the wilderness if you don't even know you're lost. Better late than never eh? If nothing else, you're probably well positioned to help others that are in a similar situation to the one you were in. Thanks for stopping by, Duncan.
It can be tough to find your way out of the wilderness if you don’t even know you’re lost. Better late than never eh? If nothing else, you’re probably well positioned to help others that are in a similar situation to the one you were in.

]]> Comment on New to software testing? Read this by Ben Kelly http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-932 Ben Kelly Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:35:46 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-932 Thanks Lisa, If this helps one or two testers become better than they otherwise would have, then that would be splendid. I've no illusions that my little rant will change the testing world. As for thinking about and discussing testing and quality in a group - that's a fine start, I think. Getting them to a point where they can adequately define quality and testing would please me to no end. Thanks Lisa,
If this helps one or two testers become better than they otherwise would have, then that would be splendid. I’ve no illusions that my little rant will change the testing world.

As for thinking about and discussing testing and quality in a group – that’s a fine start, I think. Getting them to a point where they can adequately define quality and testing would please me to no end.

]]> Comment on New to software testing? Read this by Ben Kelly http://testjutsu.com/2012/02/new-to-software-testing-read-this/#comment-931 Ben Kelly Mon, 20 Feb 2012 15:31:14 +0000 http://testjutsu.com/?p=529#comment-931 Hiya Closey. 'tis true. Just ask any married man ;) Hiya Closey.
’tis true. Just ask any married man ;)

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